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Item 8.2 - Attachment 1 |
Heritage Advisory
Committee Minutes for 18 August 2010 |
REPORT OF THE HERITAGE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD IN ROOM 3, GROUND FLOOR, COUNCIL CHAMBER BUILDING, CIVIC PLACE, PARRAMATTA ON WEDNESDAY, 18 AUGUST 2010 AT 5:41 PM
PRESENT
Carol Liston in the Chair, Bronwyn Alcorn, Shylie Brown (retired 7.32 pm), Peter Crittenden, Ruth Evans, Janice Huntington, Anne Mathews and David Shakespeare (retired 7.05pm).
IN ATTENDANCE
Shayne Bray (Local Studies and Family History Librarian), Grant Davies (Minute Clerk), Paul Kennedy (Project Officer), Karen O’Donnell (Service Manager Cultural Heritage Programs and Tourism Information- arrived 5.54pm) and Zoran Popovic (Heritage Advisor – arrived 6.18pm).
APOLOGIES
An apology was received and accepted for the absence of June Brown, Elaine Evans and Bill McGuirk.
CONFLICT OF
INTEREST DECLARATIONS
Janice Huntington declared an interest in relation to the
Local Heritage Fund Application submitted by A and M Duric for
WELCOME
The Committee extended a warm welcome to Shayne Bray, Local Studies and Family History Librarian.
MINUTES
49/10 Heritage
Advisory Committee Minutes – 16 June 2010
A copy of the Minutes of the Heritage Advisory Committee held on 16 June 2010 had previously been forwarded to each member.
RESOLVED (A Mathews/S Brown)
That the minutes of the meeting of the
Heritage Advisory Committee held on 16 June 2010 be taken as read and confirmed
as a true record of the meeting with the following alterations:-
1. The references to “Ruth Evans” on pages 4, 5 and 7 of the
minutes should actually read “Elaine Evans”.
2. The premises referred to on page 5 of the minutes as “
BUSINESS
ARISING
50/10 Missing
Plaques
Paul Kennedy referred to Minute No. 34/10 of the previous meeting and advised that the Sunday school plaque had not been mounted as yet and as this was a condition of consent, the issue had been referred to Council’s Compliance Section.
No response had been received from Compliance as yet.
In relation to the relocation of the Macquarie Plaque, Mr Kennedy suggested that this matter be held in abeyance pending further clarification associated with the World Heritage Listing of the convict site.
Gay Hendriksen had also provided
information that the Bond House Plaque was erected in the
51/10 Preservation of Female Factory
Mr Kennedy referred to Minute No. 35/10 of the previous meeting and advised that correspondence had been sent to the Sydney West Area Health Service seeking advice on any plans for the conservation and restoration of the 3rd class wing of the Parramatta Female Factory.
Responses had now been received from Phillippa Venn Brown, Cluster Operations Manager at Sydney West Area Health Service (SWAHS) and from Col Erickson of SWAHS Asset Management. A copy of each reply is appended as Attachment 1.
The Committee noted the reference
to the ‘1825
RESOLVED (C Liston/S Brown)
That the Committee accept the offer to receive a presentation on the
activities being undertaken by the SWAHS for the care and preservation of the
significant heritage items on site.
AGENDA
ITEMS
52/10 Feedback from
Council
Mr Kennedy advised that the minutes of the Heritage Advisory Committee held on 16 June 2010 had been placed before the Council at its meeting held on 26 July 2010.
Council had noted the Committee’s minutes and had also accepted the application of Maureen McManus for appointment to the Committee as a representative of the Granville Historical Society.
Since that time, Ms McManus had advised of her inability to attend due to health reasons and accordingly, the Granville Historical Society had been invited to nominate a further representative.
A further nomination was being awaited.
53/10
In the absence of Ms Michelle Desailly, this matter was held in abeyance to the next meeting.
54/10 Comprehensive
Heritage Review
It was noted that the Committee had at its previous meeting (Minute No. 37/10 refers) reviewed a batch of items of state significance to determine whether the items should be included on the State Heritage Register.
A further batch of 15 items had been previously distributed to members for consideration at tonight’s meeting.
Mr Kennedy reminded members that the critical test was whether a particular item had significance for the entire state.
The following sites were then considered and following decisions reached:-
Note
Karen O’Donnell arrived at the meeting at 5.54pm.
30 and 32
Whilst the examples are exceptional houses, the premises are items of local significance.
There was some debate as to whether this premises still existed.
The period of construction in terms of public housing was of state significance.
Accordingly, the item is of state significance.
Carol Liston noted that only a small number of houses were constructed under the Trust and accordingly further investigation needed to be carried out to see whether this item would meet the criteria for state significance.
It was noted that the head stones were not located on the original burial sites and accordingly, it was unlikely the site would meet the criteria for listing as state significant.
27, 29, 33 and
It was noted that this site constituted the first group development of the newly formed Housing Commission and accordingly were items of possible state significance.
It was also suggested that it may
be useful to contact other Western Sydney Councils, in conjunction with the
Heritage Office, to ascertain what action was being taken to consider the
listing of fibro dwellings across
Dellwood Shopping Centre –
It was noted that this site was the first construction of shops by the Housing Commission. The shops remained in much the same condition as when built and were considered to be items of state significance.
It was noted that the premises had been demolished and re-erected and could only be considered as being of local signficance.
Due to the dwelling’s early construction and as the locality was the start of the subdivision created along that part of the river (and includes the breakdown of the colonial farm base), a case may be made for listing as state significant.
It was noted that the milestone had been moved on several occasions and could only be considered as being an item of local significance.
Note
Mr Zoran Popovic arrived at the meeting at 6.18pm.
Whilst very picturesque, the item is of local significance.
Item of local significance.
It was noted that the site may meet the criteria for listing as a major regional institution.
Item be tested for state significance.
An attractive house but the item is only of local significance.
Item of local significance.
Mr Kennedy advised that the Committee had commented on 15 items each at this and the previous meeting, which left 30 items remaining to be considered.
With the agreement of the Committee, Mr Kennedy advised that the remaining 30 items would be distributed for consideration at the next meeting, being the likely final meeting prior to Christmas.
Shylie Brown requested that the
premises constructed in
Carol Liston noted that the Committee had considered the listing of the Sir Thomas Mitchell Reserve Quarry at the previous meeting. Ms Liston advised that the issue really related to geological significance.
Mr Kennedy responded that the site would be added to the inventory of state significant items but was not sure it could be added to the state heritage register.
Carol Liston requested that further investigation be undertaken on the possible state listing of the site as an item of natural heritage.
In response to a further question from David Shakespeare, Mr Kennedy advised that members were welcome to report to their respective groups on the decisions taken by the Heritage Advisory Committee.
55/10 Update on Development Applications
Mr Popovic advised that he had 2 development applications of interest for discussion at tonight’s meeting.
Construction of a single storey place of public worship. The proposal has the potential to disturb archaeology in the area. Objections had been received from local residents and the Toongabbie and District Historical Society.
Mr Popovic advised he had requested an archaeological assessment of the site be carried out prior to the DA proceeding. He noted that the Committee could comment on the proposal, however, under the EP and A Act, individual submissions from members would be required.
Carol Liston added that the
Toongabbie Government Farm is a nationally significant site and was also important
in the context of
The Committee expressed its appreciation to Council for recognising the site and for seeking the archaeological assessment.
The
proposal relates to the demolition of the subject premises which was the family
home for Richie Benaud.
Mr Popovic advised that the integrity of fabric of the house had been
compromised and that its fabric would not meet the criteria for listing,
however, the association with Richie Benaud remains.
Shylie Brown and David Shakespeare noted the wonderful story associated with
the premises and considered that it was important for the house to be saved.
The Committee then discussed whether commemoration could be made in an alternative fashion, perhaps via plaque.
RESOLVED (Liston/Mathews)
(a) That
the importance of the Benaud Family to the history of
(b) Further,
that local historical societies represented on the Committee who have collected information on important
An update was sought on the proposed development of the subject site for a hotel.
Mr Popovic advised that the
application for demolition had been refused by Council with the decision being
upheld in the Land and
It was assumed that the premises were now up for sale using the previous approval for a hotel within the body of the premises.
St Patricks Cemetery – Effect of Road Widening
Mr Popovic noted that the proposal was not a development application nor was Council the consent authority.
Mr Kennedy advised that the project was to be undertaken by the RTA and it was his understanding that the works would have minimal effect on the Cemetery.
He added that the RTA had been in discussions with the Heritage Office on the issue.
Carol Liston requested that an update on this issue be provided at the
next meeting.
Ruth Evans noted that the house constructed at the subject premises was very much different to the house displayed on the submitted plans.
Ms
Evans asked that this issue be referred to the Compliance Section for
investigation.
Intersection
of
Ruth
Evans noted the construction of an unsightly fence at the premises at the
corner of
Mr Popovic advised that he
understood approval had been received for the erection of a fence, but added he would investigate the matter
and report to the next meeting of the Committee.
Note
David Shakespeare retired from the meeting at 7.05pm.
56/10 Local
Heritage Fund Applications
Paul Kennedy advised that 5 applications had been received for consideration at this meeting as follows:-
1.
RESOLVED
(S Brown/P Crittenden)
That funds in the amount of $2000 be
granted.
2.
RESOLVED
(S Brown/A Mathews)
That funds in the amount of $2000 be
granted.
3. 73 Eleanor Street, Rosehill – repairs to the exterior of the house including replacement of exterior sheathing, repair of veranda, repair of backdoor and replacement of gutters and a downpipe.
RESOLVED
(S Brown/A Mathews)
That funds in the amount of $900 be
granted.
It was noted that the works were not considered a priority in terms of criteria and such kitchens were not evident in the 19th century.
RESOLVED (C
Liston/R Evans)
That no funds be granted under the Local Heritage Fund as the
application does not meet the necessary criteria.
RESOLVED
(S Brown/A Mathews)
That funds in the amount of $2000 be
granted.
Note
Ms Janice Huntington declared an interest in the application submitted
for 16 Rosehill Street,
GENERAL
BUSINESS
Paul Kennedy noted that a letter had been submitted by the Toongabbie and District Historical Society objecting to the subject development.
The correspondence also requested
that Council refuse any application to demolish Knox Cottage at
RESOLVED (C Liston/A Mathews)
That the information provided by the Society be placed on Council’s
relevant file and the Society be advised of the present position in relation to
each of the subject sites.
58/10
Paul Kennedy advised of an important body of sand which covers the city centre approximately 1 metre below the surface. The sand is known to contain aboriginal artefacts many thousands of years old and had been discovered by Peter Mitchell when commissioned to undertake works on behalf of Council.
Council has received
representations from the Heritage Office requesting that a portion of the sand
sheet, perhaps at the Council reserves adjoining
Paul Kennedy was seeking endorsement from the Committee for an appropriate listing and added that there would be consultation with Aboriginal groups, including the Darug people, seeking their support.
Carol Liston requested that Council ensure that developments on privately owned land were also advised of the existence of the sand sheet to ensure any impact was properly monitored.
Mr Kennedy noted that the sand sheet was mapped on Council’s GIS data and any impacting development would likely be required to carry out an archaeological investigation.
Carol Liston added that it would be timely to give consideration to an appropriate repository to ensure that any artefacts recovered were managed and retained and be available for consideration as part of Parramatta Stories.
RESOLVED (Liston/S Brown)
The Committee supports the inclusion of a portion of the sand sheet on
the State Heritage Register and looks forward to further details being
provided, particularly on the extent and areas which are best representative of
the sand sheet.
INFORMATION
SHARE
59/10 Information Share
1. History Day to be held at Hambledon Cottage on 8 September 2010 (on behalf of D Shakespeare).
2. Freedom of the City March to be held on 20 November 2010 (on behalf of D Shakespeare).
3. 2011 will be 150 years of Parramatta Municipal Council and consideration should be given to an appropriate celebration (on behalf of D Shakespeare).
4. Landscapers are back at Old Government House (P Crittenden).
5. Elizabeth Farm had received a bronze aware at the Greater City Tourism Awards for heritage and cultural tourism (B Alcorn).
6. Elizabeth Farm is working on an exhibition to be launched during Parramassala which will include an investigation on south east Asian influence on buildings (B Alcorn).
7. A History Week Programme for the Heritage Centre was tabled (K O’Donnell).
8. DigiMac is now available at the Heritage Centre for hire and quite a level of interest has already been experienced (K O’Donnell).
9. A children’s interactive is almost complete at the Heritage Centre to introduce children to archaeology. A non time specific boat had also been constructed (K O’Donnell).
10. Carol Liston will be teaching her heritage subject at the Parramatta Campus during the first 2 weeks of December. Appropriate walking tours will be conducted.
The meeting terminated at 7.41 pm.